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AHEYM-2013-141 · Debrecen

Debrecen (Debretsin in the project's index) 2013-05-27 11 min · 4 stretches · 1 questions about words Yiddish 86% Hungarian 12%

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Summary

Camera file from a session in Debrecen on 27 May 2013 (index gives no name). It begins with informal talk between Kerler and people in the room, including a phone call and a remark that this is the last day of the expedition. Kerler then asks an elderly man to recall the Purim kiddush, a Hungarian song about the Messiah, and lines from a Joseph-sale (mekhirat Yosef) play. The man recites or sings in fragments; the transcript is partly garbled.

Stretches

00:00–01:39

Informal opening. Kerler asks how someone is feeling, and there is talk about a phone call and about who was to ring whom. Kerler says that today is 27 May 2013, probably the last day of the expedition. He says the team came specially from Munkács and Ungvár to see the interviewee in Debrecen and is finishing with an interview with him.

Informal · Debretsin, Munkatsh (?), Ungvar (?)

01:30–04:42

Kerler refers to something the interviewee said about the Messiah coming and then holding back, and to a Hungarian-language kiddush he watched. He asks him to recall pieces of the Joseph-sale play for another time. He then asks how the Purim kiddush begins, and the man begins reciting or singing it in fragments. Kerler asks him to say it slowly so the individual words can be heard; the text is hard to make out.

04:42–08:56

The man continues with rapid text that Kerler says is too fast for him. Kerler discusses the song about the Messiah, which the man sings in Hungarian. The Hungarian lines describe a time of peace in the world, with girls needing no dowry and no need for salt or paprika, since God will provide. S2 and Kerler discuss the point that no paprika or salt will be needed. The song then continues in fragments.

08:56–10:40

Kerler asks when the song was sung and whether the man remembers anything from the Joseph-sale play, which his brother Joseph acted in. The man recites a passage in which the brothers talk of throwing Joseph in and of one brother asking forgiveness. The text is garbled.

Questions about words

  • 02:35
    How does the Purim kiddush begin? — the opening words of the Purim kiddush