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AHEYM-2015-088 · Naubauer, Nosm-Leib

Uzhhorod (Ungvar in the project's index) 2014-06-01 24 min · 5 stretches · 1 questions about words Yiddish 41% Hungarian 56%

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Summary

Second of two consecutive files from a session with Naubauer in Ungvar (index date 2014-06-01). The man, a tailor by trade, talks in a mixture of Yiddish and Hungarian with his wife (or a second speaker) joining in. He covers a trip to Israel, dollar rates and the black market in Soviet times, his work as a tailor for important clients, his family, and finally what Yiddishkayt means to him. Much of the middle is Hungarian and the Yiddish there is unreliable.

Stretches

00:00–02:31

Naubauer says he went to Israel for three months, or half a month. He recalls how many dollars he received for roubles. Kerler adds the official rate in Moscow and the black market. Naubauer says goods were hard to buy without connections, and that as a tailor he served important people and so could get meat and other goods.

02:31–13:32

Kerler is briefly distracted by a Russian exchange with someone about entrances. Naubauer then talks mostly in Hungarian, with the Yiddish unclear, about his work as a tailor: customers who ordered suits and dresses months in advance, a sanatorium, payment and favours, and clothes he made for his daughter, son and son-in-law. Details are uncertain.

13:32–15:43

Naubauer talks about the sewing machine he used and his retirement, mostly in Hungarian. Kerler asks about his son-in-law, who is called Leonid or Leyzer, and whether he has met him on Facebook. Naubauer says the son-in-law shows him more respect than his own son. Kerler asks about the son, who is in Israel, and Naubauer says he does not go to synagogue.

15:43–20:13

Naubauer and the second speaker, mostly in Hungarian, discuss children and how they turn out, a daughter-in-law, the flat and who will inherit it, and a doctor friend. A dispute about the apartment is mentioned. Naubauer also says Hungarian is easier for him than Yiddish. The Yiddish parts are largely unclear.

20:17–24:24

Naubauer says he travelled through Europe in 1945. The talk turns to Jewishness: the second speaker asks whether one can be Jewish in Hungarian, and Naubauer mentions a rich man who builds synagogues but does not enter one. Kerler asks what Yiddishkayt means, taking it to mean the Jewish religion. Naubauer says he is no longer a Jew, calls himself a socialist, and tells of a professor client who held that God chose the Jews.

Questions about words

  • 21:06
    Kerler asks what Yiddishkayt means to him, and whether it means the Jewish religion — what the speaker means by Yiddishkayt