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MDV 289 · Mihai Freundlich; Lazar (Moshe-Leyzer) Freund

Oradea, Romania 5 June 2007 Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Moisei Lemster Part 3 of 3 34 min · 12 passages
2 conversations on this tape
  1. 0:00–9:26 · Elizabeta Freundlich; Mihai Freundlich · also on MDV 239, MDV 240, MDV 241, MDV 287, MDV 288 proposed
  2. 9:26–34:11 · Lazar (Moshe-Leyzer) Freund two sources agree

The division was proposed from the catalogue's descriptions and the machine transcript, not stated by the catalogue (how).

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Passages

0:00

Freundlich speaks about contemporary Jewish life, as well as history of the region.

life today Life todayLocal Jewish history · MCO
From the machine transcript

Freundlich talks with the interviewers about an acquaintance from a nearby town who speaks good Yiddish and is religious. The interviewers ask where the town is, and the discussion turns to the name of a town (Hungarian Nagyvárad or Nagyvárad-type 'Gros-Vardan', in a Hungarian-named area (?)), its old fortress and the early Jewish families there. He gives numbers for the Jewish families, which are unclear. The passage also touches on the Bukovina region and his father's origin.

Includes discussion of town names and the fortress history, and the origin of his father.

3:50

Freundlich speaks about his family, in particular his father, a Vizhnitzer hasid. He shares an episode when his father visited the the Vizhnitzer rebbe. He then addresses religious customs.

From the machine transcript

Freundlich tells how his father, a Vizhnitz hasid, traveled a long way to visit the rebbe. He recounts an episode at the rebbe's Friday-night table, where his father was embarrassed. He mentions the rebbe's esteem among non-Jews. He then tells of a Friday ritual-slaughter incident in which a slaughtered bird was nearly declared not kosher, and compares religious life then with today.

Adds the kosher-slaughter incident and a comparison of past and present religious life.

8:25

The team concludes the interview with Freundlich. The camera then collects synagogue footage.

Footage Synagogue and prayer · MCO
From the machine transcript

Only a few words are heard. Kerler asks how something was called in Yiddish, and the interview with Freundlich ends.

The transcript shows only a question about a Yiddish name, with no sign of synagogue footage.

9:26

The formal interview with Lazar Freund begins. He provides personal information and speaks about his family. His father was born near Sighetu Marmației and was a tailor. Freund grew up with one brother, who died in Auschwitz.

From the machine transcript

Freund answers whether the town's old name had a Yiddish form, mentioning the word for a mine, and then gives his name, Yiddish name Moshe-Leyzer, and birthplace. He says he lived in Baia Mare until the war. He gives his father's name (Barukh Bendit), his father's birth year and his father's origin near Sighet, and says he was a tailor. He gives his mother's maiden name and first name (Perl) and her birth year (1898), and says he had one brother, who died in Auschwitz. He recalls one grandfather, his mother's father. Lemster also explains the project to him.

Adds mother's name and the explanation of the project and the interviewee's need to leave for the doctor.

14:44

Freund addresses different Yiddish dialects. He then discusses his childhood memories. He attended a Jewish school in Oradea and attended a cheder and Talmud Torah school in Baia Mare.

From the machine transcript

Freund compares the Yiddish of Transylvania, Maramureș and Moldavia, tying differences to Austro-Hungarian influence, and mentions rebbes. He recalls attending school and cheder, and the Jewish lyceum in Oradea after the war (1944–45?). He says Hungarian was spoken at home, though both parents knew Yiddish. He says his father took him to prayer from age five and studied in Talmud Torah, and that his father was not a hasid.

Adds the dialect comparison and language use at home, and his father's attitude to hasidic rebbes.

18:45

Freund speaks about prewar life in Baia Mare. He then briefly addresses Purim celebrations, before talking about his life during World War II. He was a forced laborer in 20:01 and returned to Oredea in 1947. Freund got married in 1952 and does not have any children.

From the machine transcript

Freund says there were no Yiddish speakers among non-Jews in Baia Mare, and that he spoke Hungarian with friends and Yiddish only in cheder. He briefly says he took part in Purim plays as a child. He was deported in 1944 and put to forced labor, returning in 1947; he married in 1952 and has no children. He says Hungarian is mostly spoken in Transylvania, with some Romanian, and that Romanians object to this.

Adds language use among friends and with non-Jews, and the Hungarian–Romanian language debate.

21:17

Freund addresses Purim and Sabbath celebrations, in particular zemirot.

From the machine transcript

Freund says he cannot recall Purim play pieces. He talks about his father singing Sabbath songs (zemirot) while sewing at home. He says his mother baked challah for Friday night and that Sabbath was observed strictly. He did not attend Jewish weddings before his deportation, and there are no weddings or circumcisions among Jews there now.

Adds challah and Sabbath meal customs and the absence of weddings and circumcisions today.

24:00

Freund briefly speaks about his life after the war. He worked as an accountant. He also answers questions about cultural terminology.

Questionnaire after the war Work and tradesCultural terminology · MCO
From the machine transcript

Freund briefly says he worked as an accountant after the war, including in the Ceaușescu period. He answers terminology questions: the Yiddish name of the town (Gros-Wardein, i.e. Grosswardein-type form), the word dibbuk, which he knew from a Yiddish theater performance by a Bucharest troupe visiting after the war, and the word golem.

Adds the dibbuk and golem questions and the Yiddish theater visits to Romania.

26:04

Freund speaks about his religious education and prewar Jewish life in Baia Mare. He then addresses holiday celebration before and after the war. Freund also talks about postwar circumcision until the 1960s.

From the machine transcript

Freund says he studied Chumash, Rashi and other texts in cheder, not yeshiva, and talks about prewar Jewish life in Baia Mare: about 22,000 inhabitants then, about 2,000 Jews, and one large synagogue plus a Sephardic-style study house. He says he still keeps holidays strictly. He says that until about 1960 Jews circumcised their boys, after which it decreased because parents no longer taught their children Jewishness.

Adds Jewish population figures, synagogue and rabbi, and postwar decline of circumcision.

29:20

Freund speaks about contemporary Jewish life and Jews who made aliyah.

From the machine transcript

Freund talks about the Jewish community today: 765 registered members but only about 300 real Jews, many of mixed marriage. He answers Lemster that many left for Israel after the war, mainly because of the communist and socialist regime, whereas few emigrated before the war. He then says he has to leave.

Adds reasons for emigration to Israel after the war.

31:16

Freund speaks about prewar Jewish life and institutions in Baia Mare.

From the machine transcript

Freund responds to Kerler's request to describe prewar Jewish life in his town: it was a beautiful life in which people helped each other. He lists institutions: a synagogue, rabbi, judge, two slaughterers, a cheder with a teacher, a Talmud Torah, a mikveh with bathhouse, and no yeshiva (the nearest was in Sighet or Satu Mare). He says difficulties came with the antisemitic regulations.

32:44

Freund answers dialectological questions from the AHEYM Yiddish linguistic questionnaire.

Questionnaire Yiddish language and dialect · MCO
From the machine transcript

Freund answers a few questions on Yiddish forms: the second-person pronoun and verb forms 'you come', a short sentence about a coachman and an angel, and the word for tooth. Kerler thanks the host, and Lemster and Freund close the interview.