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MDV 322 · Riva Zeilikovna Pivnik; Genya Mikhailovna Khotenko

Balta, Ukraine 20 May 2008 Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Moisei Lemster Part 3 of 3 61 min · 8 passages
2 conversations on this tape
  1. 0:00–3:52 · Riva Zeilikovna Pivnik · also on MDV 320, MDV 321 proposed
  2. 3:52–1:01:52 · Genya Mikhailovna Khotenko · also on MDV 323 two sources agree

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Passages

0:00

Pivnik answers questions about cultural terminology and explains the difference between a Jewish and non-Jewish oven.

From the machine transcript

The end of the Pivnik interview. An informant mentions a man taken to the front, then answers questions about Jewish and non-Jewish ovens and baking, and about Yiddish ways of saying 'thank you' and 'sick'. Kerler and Lemster discuss dialect differences and the project; the segment ends as the team turns to Khotenko.

includes Kerler's remark on dialects and the project's Russian description

3:52

The second part of the tape is a formal interview with Genya Mikhailovna Khotenko, nee Shvartsman, born 1926 in Balta. Khotenko bore the name Skobilov from her first non-Jewish marriage. The team enters her house and sets up the interview with her.

Informal · MCO
From the machine transcript

The team enters Khotenko's home and sets up the interview. She gives her married name, Khotenko, and her birth year, 1926, and she discusses her health and blood pressure with Kerler and Lemster.

adds her talk about health and blood pressure

5:35

Khotenko discusses her life before the war. She then talks about her family. Her father, a baker, was born in Nestoiyta. Khotenko grew up in Nestoyita, before moving to Balta in 1932. Her mother worked in the Balta sewing factory after the war. Her paternal grandparents lived on a kolkhoz. Her son Volodye Shvartsman lives in Tiraspol, Moldova. Her mother’s brother evacuated her and seven relatives with a wagon and horse during the war. Khotenko grew up with six siblings and her sister lives in Sarata.

before the warafter the warduring the war Daily life (general)Family historyAgriculture and kolkhozEvacuation · MCO
From the machine transcript

Khotenko says she was born and lived in Balta until the war, when the family was evacuated. She describes her street and the Jews who once lived there. Her father, a baker, came from a village called Nestoyita (?), and her mother sewed. She names her grandparents and a maternal uncle in Odessa, and recounts the killing of the paternal grandparents on a forced march and the evacuation by her uncle. She also mentions her son in Tiraspol, her seven siblings and her surviving sister.

adds her siblings' names and deaths, the killing of grandparents on the road, and her uncle's role in evacuation

17:09

Khotenko discusses Jewish life before the war and her education. She attended a Yiddish school for five years. Khotenko discusses Yiddish songs.

From the machine transcript

Khotenko describes prewar life as poor. She says she attended the Yiddish school for five classes and that a Russian and a Ukrainian school also existed. She answers Lemster and Kerler's questions about the Yiddish school and classes, her reading, and the Yiddish literature she studied. She recalls her mother singing old songs, though she remembers none of them.

adds the questions about school curriculum and her mother's singing

23:04

Khotenko talks about prewar holiday celebrations and Jewish life before the war. Khotenko moved to Balta in 1932. She also recalls food customs at home.

From the machine transcript

Khotenko answers questions about prewar Jewish holidays at home, saying that there was no synagogue in use. She mentions the shoykhet before and after the war, and describes Passover, Hanukkah and Purim foods and customs such as gifts and children's games. She also recalls that the family moved to Balta in 1932.

adds food customs for Passover, Purim and Hanukkah, and the shoykhet

30:09

Khotenko discusses cultural life after the war, in particular theater. She then talks about prewar life at home, in particular Sabbath and Yom Kippur celebrations. Khotenko remembers her non-Jewish friend Pavlik, who spoke Yiddish. She then talks about her family and prewar cultural life. Her grandfather was a tailor.

From the machine transcript

Khotenko recalls Yiddish theater coming from Odessa and her mother's candle-lighting. She says Yiddish was spoken at home, and recalls a non-Jewish friend, Pavlik, who spoke Yiddish with an accent. She talks about grandparents who prayed, one of whom died in 1932 (?); the other was shot on the road. She says there was little Jewish observance before the war and describes fasting on Yom Kippur.

adds language at home, Pavlik, her grandparents' observance and Yom Kippur

37:33

Khotenko talks about the Great Hunger in 1932/33. Her sister died during the famine. She then talks about postwar Yiddish culture, in particular theater. Khotenko recalls a Yiddish song about a girl, she heard from Anna Guzik. Khotenko recalls prewar Jewish weddings and discusses holidays before the war.

From the machine transcript

Khotenko describes the famine in which her sister died and the years of hunger, then says she heard Anna Guzik in postwar concerts. She recites part of a song about a girl with geese in the woods and discusses prewar Jewish weddings, with a canopy and big halls, and the custom of carrying a 'makeh' cake. She also answers questions on Sukkot and Purim before the war.

adds the hunger years, the makeh cake custom, and Sukkot and Purim questions

47:16

Khotenko answers questions about cultural terminology and discusses folk customs, as well as anecdotes about receiving luck. She explains how her sister went to an old Jewish woman, who averted the evil eye. Khotenko then talks about her family. Her grandson lives in Israel.

From the machine transcript

Khotenko answers questions on Yiddish terms (dybbuk, sick, pious, convert, blessings for the dead) and on the evil eye and cures such as incantations, wax-pouring and cupping. She says her sister was treated by an old Jewish woman who spoke the charm. She mentions Yiddish tales and then her grandson, an athlete in Israel, her son in Tiraspol and the family name Shvartsman.

adds a mix of other terminology questions and mentions of her grandson abroad