A second informant answers questions about food at weddings. He explains how a knife was sharpened on a nail, and says every Jewish household made a noodle kugel for the Sabbath. He recalls a Sabbath visit to a synagogue in Israel, where the rabbi sent a kugel to his home. The interviewers thank him and the interview closes with wishes for a reunion.
Also covers knife-sharpening, a visit to a synagogue in Israel, and the closing thanks.
Shapiro thanks the interviewers for finding him in Kyiv and speaks of a letter he has from people who went to Israel. He talks about his grandchildren, one of whom has gone to America and is a computer specialist. He then begins to give personal details, saying he is one of ten children and naming his father.
Shapiro also gives his father's name and says he is one of ten children.
Shapiro, the last surviving child of his family, describes how he brought a man named Levitas (?) into the Jewish society in Kyiv. He asked him for the chance to teach Yiddish and Hebrew in a synagogue hall, and says he taught on alternate days. Kerler asks about the years, and Shapiro places it perhaps thirty years back. He begins to speak of the family travelling to Odesa.
Also mentions the Kyiv Jewish society, the Soviet-period question from Kerler, and the family trip to Odesa.
Shapiro says two of his brothers left during the Petliura time, and that his father was an elder of the synagogue in Vinnytsya. He speaks of the elders' society and the wish that its members live to a hundred and twenty. He ends by explaining the name Ilya to a man in the society.
Adds the elders' society and the brothers' leaving at the time of Petliura.
Shapiro tells how he explained a name and a father's name to the head of an elders' society, and he sent a book of his own. He says the man later became editor of a Jewish newspaper in Ukraine and received an order. Kerler tells him the interviewers are interested in Shapiro himself and ask him to tell his own story.
Shapiro says he wrote down in notes as a child which regime came to town, including Petliura. He says rabbis began to be shot under the first Soviet power. He recalls that his parents left Vinnytsya quietly in 1928 and went to Odesa, and he names his parents Yosef ben Yankev and Etele. He tells how his parents of ten children took in a refugee family from a pogrom in Kalinovka, since the house had five rooms. Kerler asks the names of his siblings, and he lists them: Yitskhok (Eyzik), Moyshe, Nakhmen (himself fourth), and the sisters Khaye Gitl, Leye, Rokhl, Rivke and Anele.
Adds the pogrom refugees in his parents' house and the full list of siblings.
Shapiro describes a questionnaire from a Jewish institute in Kyiv about his family, and the booklet he made with family information and photographs of old Kyivans. Kerler says the team is going to Vinnytsya the next day. Shapiro recalls that no pogrom occurred in his town. He shows photographs of his parents, siblings and sisters to the camera, with Katz and Kerler naming them. He says one brother is in Israel and another fell at Stalingrad.
Adds the Kyiv institute's questionnaire, a brother killed at Stalingrad, and photographs.
