Final file of a four-file session with Henryk Prajs (index: Ger, 12 June 2017), a very elderly man who speaks mostly Polish. It opens with chat about a meeting with a president or mayor and a trip to Łódź and Warsaw, then has a long Polish monologue on his oath of loyalty and army service in 1939, Polish politics, Zionism, faith and his wish to be buried in Warsaw. It ends with thanks and a Yiddish song about the little rebbe teaching children the alphabet.
00:00–02:35
Opening chat in mixed Polish and Yiddish: thanks and compliments, and a mention that the man was invited to the president's. Kerler asks about the president or mayor (primar) of Ger. Short exchanges with S2, with talk of the informant's library and literature.
Informal
life today
· Ger
02:35–04:19
Kerler, S2 and another voice talk about travelling to Łódź and Warsaw and about giving money. Prajs jokes in Polish that he has never been drunk and has lived a hundred years. He says he would not take a million zloty to smoke a cigarette, and would return it.
04:19–05:52
Prajs speaks in Polish about the oath of loyalty to the homeland that he swore, apparently in 1938, as a soldier. He describes the multi-ethnic Polish army, with Poles, Germans, Ukrainians, Russians and Jews, each taking the oath before their own cleric: priest, pastor or rabbi. He says he went to fight in 1939.
05:52–09:10
Prajs gives a political monologue in Polish. He criticises Macierewicz and the army build-up against Russia, and the parties PiS, PO and PSL. He discusses the "cursed soldiers" and desertion after the war and says Poles have forgotten their roots and patriots. He speaks as an old man and as a former soldier.
09:10–10:37
Prajs says he wrote an article for a newspaper about Poland's strength, and that it is kept in the Jewish museum. He says he received a medal from the armed forces. He then continues on Russia, America and the losses of the war.
10:37–12:46
Prajs speaks about Israel, Ben-Gurion and 1948, and says he was a Zionist. He describes himself as a social democrat, liberal and pacifist. He says he is not afraid to live as a Jew in Góra Kalwaria (?), and that every nation should be free but loyal. He says he hates communism and has criticised it, and that he would have given his life for Poland.
12:33–14:30
Prajs says he must be buried in the Jewish cemetery in Warsaw, and talks about his entitlement or papers for it. He says his parents were as good as anyone and died for their faith. He reflects that all people believe in the same God and speaks warmly of other believers such as Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses. He says he holds no grudge against Poles, Russians or Germans. Kerler speaks of his wife.
14:30–16:36
Prajs speaks of his wife, who arranged his papers, and of his Polish mother-in-law (?). He tells of a soldier's uniform and papers. He quotes Mickiewicz, and says that Jews cannot disappear, that faith begins with the Jews, and that other religions derive from the Jewish one. He ends by thanking his listeners.
16:49–17:32
Prajs sings a Yiddish song about the little rebbe teaching the children the alphabet (aleph-beys, gimel) in a warm house. It is the song "Oyfn pripetshik". Kerler comments briefly at the end.