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MDV 631 · Raisa Borisovna Turovskaia

Ovruch, Ukraine 26 May 2007 Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Moisei Lemster Part 2 of 3 62 min · 19 passages

One conversation with Raisa Borisovna Turovskaia, continuing over MDV 630, MDV 631, MDV 632.

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Passages

0:00

Celebrating holidays and food customs.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia answers questions about Passover and Purim in her childhood home: her father asked the four questions and read and told stories, and she recalls the custom of banging with feet on Purim. She describes her mother's Passover preparations with geese and fat and sending food to a poor neighbor, and her mother's generosity to the needy.

Includes the four questions at the seder and her mother's charity to a poor neighbor.

3:27

Childhood memories and religious food customs.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia recalls collecting money from Jewish houses to help people, and talks about holiday food: geese and ducks, challah baked every Friday, and the custom of throwing a piece of dough into the oven. She describes the seder, her father leading it, the kittel her mother sewed, wine, Elijah's cup and the afikoman, and mentions young yeshiva graduates.

Details of the seder (kittel, Elijah's cup, afikoman) and the yeshiva graduates are beyond the catalogue label.

7:59

Religious life today.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia speaks about two yeshiva graduates and what they could learn about Jews, then about retelling the story of the Exodus, Moses and Aaron and the ten plagues. Lemster then asks about Yiddish writers.

Turns to the Exodus story and Lemster's question on Yiddish writers.

8:56

Yiddish writers and prewar years.

before the war Yiddish literature and press · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia says she read Sholem Aleichem, then talks about her work as a teacher before the war, with its daily lesson plans and many classes, and her earnings. She goes on to prepare food and answers Lemster's questions about making a vinegar meat dish.

Includes her teaching work and the start of the meat-in-vinegar recipe.

10:35

Food customs.

Food · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia answers Lemster's and Kerler's detailed questions about food: meat with onions and vinegar, stuffed derma and intestines, cutlets, and a layered dish she made in Siberia. She also covers Hanukkah latkes made of buckwheat flour and potato pancakes for Passover, with discussion of the Ukrainian word for them and Yiddish terms.

Covers Hanukkah latkes and the Yiddish versus Ukrainian terms for dishes.

18:40

Handwritten Yiddish-storybook of Volednicker rebbe.

From the machine transcript

Kerler asks about the book her father wrote down; Turovskaia says he wrote the stories himself from memory and from what he heard, and used to read them to the children. She tells how he was falsely accused of a crime, and recalls his skill in judging cattle; he once wanted to become a shoykhet but his mother would not allow it.

Mentions the father's wish to be a shoykhet and his false accusation, not the book alone.

20:39

Family.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia says her father could have become a shoykhet but was not allowed. She gives death dates of her father and husband, her husband's name and that he too was from Volednik, then the conversation moves to jokes about neighboring towns' Jews.

Names her husband and his Volednik origin.

21:55

Prewar Jewish life in Volednick.

before the war Local Jewish history · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia answers questions about Volednik: nicknames and sayings about neighboring Jews, a Christian classmate in her Yiddish school, and whether non-Jews spoke Yiddish. She comments on antisemitism today and reports a news story about a Jewish student killed in St. Petersburg, then Kerler asks when she returned to the area.

Covers antisemitism today and the news from St. Petersburg.

23:59

Life after the war.

after the war Daily life (general) · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia talks about her return to Ovruch after the war: her mother died after she left on pension, her father was left alone and the family was scattered, and her husband stayed in Siberia for a time. She describes the destruction of the town and the house that was divided in two with several rooms, then the start of the war and what Polish Jewish refugees said about the fascists.

Adds the house divided in two and the beginning of the war.

26:31

Anecdotes and childhood memories.

From the machine transcript

Lemster asks for Jewish anecdotes and funny stories from childhood; Turovskaia says there were few to hear and mentions a neighbor family named Zilberman who were leather makers. She describes the well near the old synagogue where water was drawn, and complains about water pollution today. Kerler asks about tales of fools, which she does not know.

Includes the well by the old synagogue and the present-day water problem.

31:16

Prewar life and childhood friends.

before the war Daily life (general)Childhood · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia talks about her prewar friends in Volednik, including Reyzl and Manya, and says they spoke Yiddish with Jewish friends and Russian or Ukrainian with Christian classmates. She describes her grandfather's family working a plot of land and how non-Jewish neighbors covered the hay when rain came on the Sabbath. Lemster then asks how she knows of her father's three encounters with bandits.

Adds neighbors helping on the Sabbath and the question about bandits.

34:35

Family.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia explains that she knows from her parents' stories about her father's encounters before the revolution and her uncle Yakov Leyzer's actions at a funeral. She narrates her father's time in the Gulag, working at a brickyard, and being sent into the cold river, with a Russian stretch about sentence and bonus. Her mother then sent him parcels, and the family sent the girls away.

Adds the father's Gulag experience and the uncle's story.

38:59

Evacuation.

during the war Evacuation · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia recounts the evacuation: her mother's fear for the girls, her grandmother's refusal to go and the wagon to the last train, kolkhoz work, being separated from her mother and searching for the family. She mentions a gypsy fortune-teller, a telegram, and finding them in Mordovka (?) and later a village in the Buryat ASSR where she worked as a brigadier. Her grandmother died in Siberia, and Lemster asks about the Feldman/Ferdman family name.

Adds the journey, the fortune-teller, the telegram and the work in Buryatia.

50:41

Father's return home in 1942.

during the war Liberation and returnFamily history · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia describes her father's release from the front in 1942, his swollen state and his time in a hospital with a Jewish surgeon, where he prayed on Yom Kippur. He then went back to the front in Karelia and she recounts an incident about a mine. Lemster and Kerler then ask about the age of the dress.

Adds the Yom Kippur prayer in the hospital and the Karelian front.

53:11

Showing her mother's wedding dress and life today.

From the machine transcript

The camera shows Turovskaia's mother's wedding dress, and she and the interviewers comment on its age and condition. Lemster confirms the wedding was in 1920; Turovskaia says she cares for her son and grandchildren, and Kerler asks for her parents' pictures.

Includes her remarks on caring for her son and grandchildren.

55:05

Life today and outside footage of her house.

Footage life today Life today · MCO
From the machine transcript

Turovskaia and the interviewers talk at the end of the visit about repairs to the house, her son Avraham Khaim (?) and the cost of medicine, and thanks for coming. The conversation moves on to addressing the photographs; the catalogue notes footage of the exterior is mostly camera-only.

The transcript shows talk of house repairs and medicine, not outside footage.

56:40

Family photographs.

From the machine transcript

Turovskaia identifies people in family photographs for Kerler and Lemster: her parents, her brother Itsikl, her sister Esther and sister's husband, her grandparents, and pictures from the cemetery. She dates some to after the war, her father's return in 1946, and mentions a relative in St. Petersburg. Much of the passage mixes Yiddish and Russian.