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MDV 699 · Ester Khananovna Preger; Klara (Khaye) Naumovna Sapozhnik

Tomashpol', Ukraine 28 June 2005 Part 2 of 2 62 min · 4 passages
2 conversations on this tape
  1. 0:00–16:12 · Ester Khananovna Preger · also on MDV 697 proposed
  2. 16:12–1:02:16 · Klara (Khaye) Naumovna Sapozhnik two sources agree

The division was proposed from the catalogue's descriptions and the machine transcript, not stated by the catalogue (how).

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Passages

0:00

Continuation of interview with Ester Khananovna Preger.

· MCO
From the machine transcript

The end of the conversation with Preger, in a mix of Yiddish and Russian-influenced speech. She talks about local non-Jews breaking into houses and stealing, about killings of Jews by Germans and nearby villagers, and about the war's end. She also addresses the emigration of Jews to America and Israel, the use of the term Erets Yisroel, and complaints about pensions, prices and politics, plus an unnamed local woman and the Jewish community in Vinnytsya. Kerler also arranges the next stops.

The transcript also shows talk of post-war emigration and complaints about the pension system.

16:12

Interview with Klara (Khaye) Naumovna Sapozhnik

· MCO
From the machine transcript

Formal interview with Sapozhnik, who says she is a native of Tomashpol' and speaks Yiddish with her brother in Israel. She talks about her parents Nusn and Rukhl and the kolkhoz, her siblings, the old synagogue and how women prayed, her father's siddur and her poor childhood. She recalls the war, with her brothers drafted and the killings and ghettos under Germans and Romanians. She also mentions the town's remaining Yiddish speakers, and answers Kerler's questions on Yiddish words and on fish, melay and Passover food. Katz adds a general question about the best years.

Beyond the interview, the passage covers a non-Jewish Yiddish speaker, Passover customs, wedding customs and the shoykhet killed by Romanians.

49:00

Children playing and other scenes of Tomashpol’.

Footage life today · MCO
From the machine transcript

Camera and talk on the street in Tomashpol', with an address on Volodarskaya street being given and children heard nearby. Kerler and Katz remark on a typical shtetl street, and Russian-language instructions to film it and to enter a house are heard.

The street is called a real shtetl street, with a street address (Volodarskaya, 18) given.

51:19

Interview with Dora Bentsionovna Guzman.

· MCO
From the machine transcript

Interview with Dora Guzman, who is welcomed into her flat. Katz states the date as 28 June 2005 and asks about her earliest memories. She was born in Tomashpol', attended the Yiddish school up to the fourth class and then Ukrainian school in Pishchanka, where she stayed with her mother's brother. She names her father Benyamin/Bentsion Abramovich, who worked in the clothing trade, was pious and prayed in one of the three synagogues, and her mother Sara, from the Odessa region. Katz also asks about Yiddish songs, the rabbi, Passover seder, Purim pastries, Hanukkah, the Sabbath and fish dishes.

The transcript adds Katz's questions on Jewish holidays and food, which the catalogue does not mention.