The team sets up the formal interview with Burăh Cohn. He speaks about his life during the war. He did forced labor in Tiraspol.
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Kerler sets up the interview with Burekh Cohn, who comes from Sulița, 25 km from Botoșani. Cohn says he spent the war in Tiraspol (?), and Kerler states the date and place for the recording.
The forced-labor detail is only touched on.
The formal part of the interview begins. Cohn provides personal information and talks about his family. His father was a cobbler. His parents were also born in Suliţa. He grew up with two brothers. Cohn remembers that his grandfather sang and told stories.
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Cohn gives his birth date, 5 October 1927, and talks about his family in Sulița. His father Yidl was a cobbler, both parents were born in Sulița, and he had two brothers. His grandfather Mordechai was a poor shoemaker who sang and told stories, and he names his grandmothers.
Names his grandparents and says his grandfather fell in the First World War.
Cohn discusses his childhood memories in prewar Suliţa. He attended a Jewish school from 1936 to 1940. He recalls his teachers and Yiddish texts he read. Cohn then lists organizations, including Betar, HaNoar HaTzioni, Hashomer Hatzair and Drakh Habonim. Cohn states that he was involved in Drakh Habonim.
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Cohn recalls a hard, poor childhood in Sulița. He attended the Jewish school from 1936 to 1940 and names his teachers, from Bessarabia. He read Mendele and Sholem Aleichem and lists the Zionist movements, saying he was active in Drakh Habonim.
Cohn speaks about his family and his activity in the Zionist youth group Drakh Habonim. He recalls a Zionist song in Hebrew and then a Yiddish song he heard from his mother.
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Cohn talks about the Zionist youth group meeting place and its literary sessions, and about the songs sung in Yiddish and Hebrew. He recalls a Hebrew song and a Yiddish song, and says his mother sang Sabbath songs. He names his mother's mother as Gitl.
Cohn speaks about his education at a Jewish school, in particular teachers. He discusses holiday celebration at home before the war. Specifically, Cohn addresses Sabbath.
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Cohn says the teacher Balter taught Jewish holidays and customs at the Jewish school. He describes Sabbath at home: his mother baked challah and made the Sabbath, and he explains what the Sabbath means.
Cohn speaks about prewar Jewish life in Suliţa. According to him, 150 Jewish families resided in town. He also lists the different local synagogues. He then talks about Passover and Purim celebrations, including food customs. Cohn briefly touches upon Purim shpiels and charity.
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Cohn says about 150 Jewish families lived in Sulița, with five synagogues, one named after Reb Moshele, and some Hasidim. He describes Passover customs, Purim baking and masked visitors, Purim songs and a purim-shpil he took part in, and giving money to the poor.
Cohn speaks about his childhood memories. He mentions non-Jews who spoke Yiddish and then addresses traditional weddings.
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Cohn talks about childhood friends, among them non-Jews. He names a Romanian apprentice in his father's workshop who spoke Yiddish, and then describes Jewish weddings, including the klezmer Hershl Hidler, who was also a badkhn.
Cohn speaks about holiday celebration. He also recalls prayers.
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Cohn describes Tisha b'Av and the children's games, and recalls prayers learned from his mother. He mentions the Havdalah and Hanukkah customs and foods such as latkes, and Shavuot dairy food, and describes Hoshana Rabbah in the synagogue.
Cohn addresses the prewar occupational structure of Suliţa, before talking about prewar print media. He recalls Zionist newspapers and theater performances.
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Cohn lists the town's trades, such as tailors, carpenters, coopers and tinsmiths, with no fire brigade. Zionists brought Yiddish and Romanian papers, there was a Zionist club with a lending library, and Yiddish theater troupes visited, as did Purim performances.
Cohn talks about prewar religious life. He remembers how the community hired the rabbi of Sighetu Marmației, after the local rabbi passed away. He then answers questions about cultural terminology.
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Cohn says the community called a rabbi from Sighet after the old rabbi, Reb Moshele, died. He then answers terminology questions on rabbi and rebbe and on visits to a tsadik, and on Jews from Galicia and Lithuania.
Cohn addresses food customs, in particular gefilte fish. He also talks about Sabbath celebrations and mentions drunkards, before answering questions about cultural terminology.
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Cohn answers questions on the taste of his mother's gefilte fish, on schnapps, drinking on the Sabbath, kiddush and Sabbath meetings. He is asked the word for a dybbuk.
Includes a questionnaire word, the dybbuk.
Cohn answers questions about cultural terminology.
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Cohn answers questions about the meaning of Yiddish and Romanian words. These include dybbuk, golem (including the phrase about sitting like a golem) and terms for a Jewish cemetery versus a non-Jewish burial ground or field. Kerler also asks how a field or cemetery is called in Romanian.
Includes the golem and dybbuk terms and the Jewish and non-Jewish cemetery vocabulary.
Cohn talks about his life during World War II. He explains how he was taken with his father to do forced labor in road construction under Romanian command in Tiraspol. According to him, his mother and two brothers stayed in Botoșani during the war. Cohn also mentions beatings by Romanian soldiers and states that he was liberated by the Red Army in 1944.
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Cohn tells how he was taken to Tiraspol with his father during the war. They broke stones in a quarry and spread them on roads under Romanian guards, with beatings, hunger and no German guards. His mother and two brothers stayed in Botoșani. He recalls being beaten by a Romanian gendarme for stealing food from a field. They were brought home as the Russian front approached, in 1944.
Adds the father's separate work group and the theft-of-food beating episode.
Cohn recalls singing during the war and then sings a Yiddish song about poverty.
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Cohn says Jews sang Yiddish songs in the labor camp, then sings a Yiddish song about walking hungry and cold and sleeping on boulevard benches. He repeats it at Kerler's request.
Cohn speaks about his life after the war. He remembers the hunger and the support of the Joint Distribution Committee in the immediate postwar period. Cohn moved to Botoșani in 1941 and continues that he was sent away from his hometown due to fire. Cohn was trained as carpenter and glazier.
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Cohn speaks about the great hunger in Romania just after the war and the Joint, which ran soup kitchens in the Jewish towns. He describes life under Ceaușescu as very bad, with Jews fared worse. He moved to Botoșani in 1941, a few days before the war, because Jews were no longer allowed to live in the royal towns. Houses were set on fire. After the war he worked as a metalworker and glazier, and is asked for the word for window glass.
Adds the Ceaușescu years and the expulsion with burning of houses.
Cohn answers dialectological questions from the AHEYM Yiddish questionnaire. He then speaks about his life after the war and how he met his wife. He also remembers his traditional wedding.
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Cohn answers a question about the word for a windowpane. He then explains he fell in love with his wife and met her in Botoșani. He describes the wedding, with a rhymester-entertainer named Finyele (?) and a badkhn. The musicians were a klezmer band, including some Christians, led by a Jew and playing modern and Yiddish songs.
Adds the wedding band and the badkhn, and the question on window glass terms.
Cohn addresses Jewish life in Botoșani after the war.
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Cohn answers questions about postwar Jewish life in Botoșani. There were many Jewish doctors, who spoke Romanian and Yiddish at home. He names synagogues, including the High Synagogue, a Passover (?) synagogue and a carpet-makers' synagogue. Kerler then asks about the words 'parves' and similar terms, with an unclear exchange.
Cohn talks about prewar cultural life in Suliţa, in particular presentations by Zionist leaders, including Ze'ev Jabotinsky. He also recalls how people left for the Land of Israel.
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Cohn recalls prewar lectures in Suliţa, where Zionist speakers came to talk, among them Jabotinsky, who came from Chernivtsi (80 km away) and spoke in Polish-style Yiddish. Another speaker, a Mr. Zekler (?), spoke in Romanian Yiddish about going to the Land of Israel. Many people emigrated. There was a hakhshara and Cohn was a halutz, and he recognises a pioneer song.
Adds the hakhshara and Cohn's own halutz past, and the Yiddish of the speakers.
Cohn talks about his life today and before the war. He addresses harsh winters and Jews who worked the land.
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Cohn describes visiting Suliţa now, where the Jewish cemetery remains but no Jews live, though relatives come from Israel. He recalls prewar life there as hard and the winters as a disaster, with a lack of firewood. A relief committee gave wood to the poor. Some Jews farmed their own fields. The town had a Jewish doctor named Gras (?) but no lawyer.
Adds the Jewish doctor in Suliţa and visits to the cemetery today.
Cohn sings again the song he remembers from the war period.
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Cohn sings again the song about walking hungry and cold and sleeping on boulevard benches. Kerler thanks him afterwards.