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AHEYM-2013-030 · Cluj-Napoca

Cluj-Napoca (Kloyzenburg in the project's index) 2013-05-17 11 min · 4 stretches · 2 questions about words Yiddish 94% Hungarian 6%

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Summary

Tenth-minute file of a long session recorded in Cluj (Kloyzenburg) on 17 May 2013; the index gives no name. An elderly man born in 1920 talks with Kerler about his family's roots in a village called Zal (?) and Zalau-area places, German-speaking Jews, his Yiddish and Hebrew names, and Jewish life in nearby villages. The file ends with his present house-bound condition and a Purim custom of going from house to house.

Stretches

00:00–02:45

The man talks about the rich, productive region where his father's family lived, naming villages including Zhibal (?), Iliande (?) and Zal (?). His father married a girl from Zal, and his mother, her mother and he himself were all born there, three generations in one place. Kerler asks whether Germans (Saxons) lived among the non-Jews and how Jews came to know German; the informant's answers are brief.

before the war Family historyPersonal informationLocal Jewish historyYiddish language and dialect · Zhibal (?), Iliande (?), Zal (?), Transylvania

02:45–06:17

After an unclear exchange about a village name (Kesene (?)), Kerler gives the date and place of the recording. The informant gives his Yiddish name Yidl and Hebrew name Menachem Yehuda ben David, and discusses the Hungarian forms of his father's name David (Dezső). He then names his birthplace village, which he says he was born in in 1920, and gives the names of his mother and grandmother (Gitl, Miriam Gitl), with some passages in Hungarian.

before the war Personal informationFamily history · Cluj, Zal (?), Mezőzáh (?)

06:17–08:04

Kerler asks how many Jews lived in the village; the informant says none are left, and that people used to answer 'twenty tallisim'. He mentions the local notary or mayor (?) who had a tallis and kittel though not observant. They also speak of Krois (?) and Bistritz (?), and Kerler recalls a trip to Bistritz when a gravestone (matseyve) was set up.

before the warlife today Local Jewish historyReligious life (general)Memorials and commemoration · Bistritz (?), Krois (?)

08:04–10:40

Kerler and the informant talk about the pleasure of meeting; he says he has not left the house for a couple of months and is afraid to walk alone. They then talk about Purim customs in his childhood: going to the primar (mayor) and to the householders with the greeting 'a gutn purim', and the humorous rhyme or verse about falling. He recalls dressing up when he went round.

Questions about words

  • 02:11
    were there Jews who knew German? where did they know German from? — how Jews learned German
  • 09:32
    did they sing or say something (on Purim)? — Purim greeting or verse