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MDV 590 · Hershel Ylyevich Vider

Mukacheve, Ukraine 5 July 2005 Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Jeffrey Veidlinger, Dovid Katz Part 2 of 6 61 min · 5 passages

One conversation with Hershel Ylyevich Vider, continuing over MDV 589, MDV 590, MDV 591, MDV 592.

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Passages

0:00

Vider talks about his family and prewar Jewish life. Vider’s daughter lives in Hungary and his son is a Canadian citizen. His father was born in Sighetu Marma?iei. Vider recalls the wedding of Eluzer Spira’s daughter in 1934, as well as the rebbe’s funeral. He then talks about religious life today, praying in Russian. According to Vider, people called prewar Mukacheve “little Jerusalem.” He claims that even half of the non-Jews in the city spoke Yiddish. Vider explains that the former director of the local Hebrew school, Dr. Haim Kugel, became the mayor of Kholoniv after the war.

From the machine transcript

Vider talks about attending the setting of a new gravestone for a Jew in Berehove, and about the last Yiddish speakers there. Kerler introduces him as born in Mukacheve in 1922. He gives his father's and grandfather's names, with a father from Sighet, and discusses the Vider family name, the town's Jewish population (about sixteen thousand), and a Kleinbart family. He remembers the wedding of the rebbe's daughter and mentions the rebbe's funeral. He describes the town's many synagogues, prayer today in Russian with only a few praying in Hebrew, and bar mitzvah and bat mitzvah customs. He recalls Mukacheve as a 'little Jerusalem' with a multiethnic population where Hungarian was the main language and half of the non-Jews knew Yiddish, plus the Hebrew gymnasium under Dr. Haim Kugel, the orphanage, and the Munkács Hasidic court. He ends with his children (a daughter in Hungary and a son with Canadian citizenship) and a short Yiddish-Russian exchange about a word.

The transcript also shows the Kleinbart family, bar/bat mitzvah customs, charity boxes and the Hasidic court.

17:57

Vider talks about the wedding of Chaim Elazar Spira’s daughter and shows several illustrated books about the history of Mukacheve. Vider then shows a Hungarian Jewish newspaper from the 1930s that reports on Hasidic life, before he shows photographs of the wedding and funeral of Eluzer Spira, as well as other photos of prewar Jewish life.

From the machine transcript

Vider shows Kerler books and papers from his collection: a Hungarian chronicle of the Holocaust, a Hungarian Jewish newspaper he had for years, old photographs and postcards, and an old map of the town. He mentions the Safed museum director and a historian, and names the Hebrew gymnasium and a Mukacheve rabbi's wedding, and photos of Hakhshara and of his father. The talk touches on the Czech-era name of the town and the wedding photos of the Munkács rebbe, his daughter and her groom Rabinovitsh. It also includes a mention of the Spinka rebbe.

The transcript also shows an old map of the town, a historian's name, the museum in Safed, and a Hakhshara photograph.

30:10

Vider talks about Frume’s (Spira’s daughter) wedding. He also sings Yiddish songs. He then talks about his family. Vider put up a canopy for his wedding in 1949. His son was circumcised in 1955. He then shows a book on the Holocaust of the Transcarpathian region and other illustrated books about Mukacheve. Vider then talks about food customs and shows a video of a relative, playing music.

From the machine transcript

Vider and Kerler look at photographs of Fruma's wedding and of the rebbe, and Vider recalls the wedding in the courtyard, with dancing and Yiddish and Hungarian songs. He sings a song and sits with S3 singing along. He mentions his own wedding canopy and a circumcision he knows of, and says circumcisions are performed in Mukacheve today. He shows a book on the Holocaust in Transcarpathia and other volumes, and is asked about a Yiddish term for a non-Jewish church. After a discussion of food words, including challah and berches, he shows a video of a relative who is a musician.

The transcript also shows a book on Hungarian deportations, a question on a Yiddish word for a church, food terms, and a video of a relative musician.

50:08

Vider talks about his family, in particular his great-grandmother Zisl Berger. He then describes the folk custom “leshn koyln,” before recalling prewar Hasidic life.

From the machine transcript

Vider talks about his great-grandmother Zisl and his grandmother Toybe, whose family names (Vetnshteyn, Berger) he explains; he also mentions his mother Leye and his own Hebrew name. He answers Kerler's questions about 'leshn koyln' (extinguishing coals), a folk remedy against the evil eye that his mother used. He then tells a story of the Munkács rebbe's meeting with the Czech foreign minister Beneš.

The transcript also shows the story of the rebbe's meeting with Beneš.

56:35

Vider talks about his life during World War II. He was imprisoned in the Vorkuta gulag (building railroads) from 1940 to 1946, accused of spying. His brother Mendl hid in Budapest and his other brother Moyshe served in the Czechoslovak army during the war. Vider then talks about his family, in particular his children.

From the machine transcript

Vider speaks about his wartime years, saying he spent six and a half years in the Vorkuta gulag, accused of spying (for the English); there he learned Russian. His brothers' fates: one hid in Budapest, and Moyshe served in the Czechoslovak army in France and Africa and later married in England. He then returns to his own family, saying his daughter lives in Hungary and does not speak Yiddish and his son does, and he names his children after relatives. Kerler closes by asking about Purim customs.