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MDV 207 · Dina Abramovna Mirenburg; Zelda Davidovna Roif

Soroca, Chișinău, Moldova 17 December 2005 Interviewed by Dov-Ber Kerler, Moisei Lemster, Dovid Katz Part 3 of 3 56 min · 9 passages
2 conversations on this tape
  1. 0:00–33:02 · Dina Abramovna Mirenburg · Soroca · also on MDV 205, MDV 206 proposed
  2. 33:02–56:10 · Zelda Davidovna Roif · Chișinău proposed

The division was proposed from the catalogue's descriptions and the machine transcript, not stated by the catalogue (how).

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Passages

0:00

Mirenburg talks about her life during the war. After she and her family returned home to Sguritzy, Mirenburg explains, how they were supposed to go the Rîbniţa ghetto, but went to Yampil instead. She recalls a family friend, who was injured. When they arrived in Yampil, Mirenburg's family moved further through different Ukrainian towns, including Myskivye 2:27, Dzyhivka, and Potashna. She describes the journey and how they received food from Jewish families. Mirenburg talks about their stay on the Potashna kolkhoz and the time she fell ill with typhus. Her younger brother died of typhus there. She then recalls what people on the kolkhoz told about the Bershad ghetto, which encouraged her family to move on to the Bershad ghetto. She also lost her youngest brother and father during the war. Mirenburg talks about how she begged for food in the surrounding villages for two weeks and the beatings she and her mother suffered. She then addresses life in the Bershad ghetto and her family. Mirenburg recalls a song non-Jewish boys in the surrounding villages would sing.

From the machine transcript

Mirenburg continues her war account. Her group was sent to Yampil instead of Rîbniţa, and she tells of a family friend from Sguritzy who survived a massacre of a column. Then come the march through Ukrainian towns, food rations, and the Potashna cowshed, where she fell ill with typhus and had a dream while ill. Her brother and then her father died. In Bershad the family begged in the villages, and a Ukrainian village elder beat her and her mother. She also tells of a boy who was tied to a motorcycle. Kerler asks about a song the village boys sang.

Adds the typhus dream, the boy tied to a motorcycle, and the father's death date.

17:43

Mirenburg describes her liberation from the Bershad ghetto. She recalls interactions with Jewish partisans, who informed them about the liberation. In particular, Mirenburg remembers Yashe the Partisan. Mirenburg then talks about the losses of her family members and her life after the war in Soroca. She finished her school education.

From the machine transcript

Mirenburg describes the liberation of the Bershad camp and the Jewish partisan Yashe, who told the prisoners what had happened. She recounts how he hid among the dead on a cart and how his family was tortured and killed. After the Dniester was crossed in March they returned home. Her mother and sister worked in a canteen in Soroca, and she herself was studying.

Adds the partisan Yashe's story in detail, including the fate of his parents.

26:16

Mirenburg briefly answers dialectological questions from the AHEYM Yiddish questionnaire, before the team concludes the official part of the interview.

Questionnaire Yiddish language and dialect · MCO
From the machine transcript

Mirenburg answers Kerler's short dialect questions: words for 'frozen', 'sick', 'pious' and 'honest', and the phrase 'give me'. She comments on mixing Russian with Yiddish. Kerler thanks her and the formal part ends.

29:33

Mirenburg takes the team to the synagogue and describes the forced assembly in 1941. The camera then records footage of the synagogue.

TourFootage during the war Synagogue and prayerWorld War II (general) · MCO
From the machine transcript

Mirenburg describes the synagogue, where people were forced to gather in 1941, the room's earlier arrangement and its restoration. Kerler thanks her, and talk turns to the recording and what it is for. The camera then films the synagogue, with some Russian aside.

Adds the interviewer's discussion of the recording.

33:02

Roif, nee Reiser, talks about contemporary Jewish life. She was born 1930 in Iași. She then addresses her childhood memories and her life before the war. She describes the interactions between her father-in-law and the Ştefăneşti rebbe. He lived in America for six years and returned a wealthy man, according to Roif.

From the machine transcript

Roif talks with Katz about Jewish observance and the Ştefăneşti rebbe. She describes her father-in-law, who spent six years in America and returned wealthy, and his wife's illness. The rebbe sent his gabbai to fetch the doctor. Roif also tells of their kashrut observance and the family's deportation to a camp.

Adds the details of the in-laws' story and the observance of kashrut.

38:21

Roif provides personal information and talks about her family. Three days after her birth, she was taken in by her paternal grandfather, who lived in Duruitoarea, because her mother was physically unable to take of Roif. She then discusses her childhood memories in Duruitoarea and her family. Roif recalls the family's involvement in agricultural work.

From the machine transcript

Roif says she was born in Iași. Three days later relatives took her to her grandfather in the village of Duruitoarea, about 25 km from Rîşcani. She tells of her paralysed mother, who was sent to Iași, and of the family farm with horses, a cow and poultry. Her father's name was David (Dudl).

40:48

Roif sings a Yiddish song dedicated to wealthy people to learn about what life means. She then talks about contemporary Jewish life and charity.

From the machine transcript

Roif sings a Yiddish song about the rich and the meaning of life and giving to the poor. She then talks about Jewish life and charity today. She gives alms and lives on small pensions plus support from Germany for survivors. She gives figures for pension and prices. Katz asks how elderly Jews without that support manage.

46:06

Roif sings a Yiddish song about daily ordinary life, she heard in the ? ghetto. She also addresses life in the ? ghetto underground religious activity. The second Yiddish song, Roif learned in the ghetto, talks about violence and living conditions in the ghetto.

Singing during the war GhettoSongs and musicReligious life (general) · MCO
From the machine transcript

Roif tells how a holy book was passed on to her uncle in the camp and kept in Bălți. She then sings two songs learned in the camp: one of longing for home, the other about a hungry child who steals bread. She says the songs come from camp life and that she has forgotten others.

52:29

Roif talks about her life during the war. She explains how her family was first imprisoned in a ghetto near Rîşcani for three months, then Mărculeşti for two weeks, before being forced to march to the Cosăuţi woods, where the prisoners were supposed to cross the Dniester River over to Transnistria. Roif recalls mass shootings in the woods. Roif then describes the crossover to Transnistria and her family's fate during the war.

From the machine transcript

Roif describes the deportation. The family was held near Rîşcani for three months, then in Mărculeşti for about two weeks. They were driven to the Cosăuţi woods before crossing the Dniester. Her paralysed mother was carried on a cart. She died in the first kolkhoz in Transnistria. Roif also tells of an aunt and her children who died, and the Red Cross.